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	<description>by Matthew Morine</description>
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		<title>By: Jeanne M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeanne M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 02:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like you, my husband usually will greet people when visiting just as if he were at home, but several times I have asked him to remain quiet and see how we are treated.  Sometimes we have been warmly welcomed, but too many times we have been ignored and allowed to come and go with no interaction at all.  This has made us even more eager to seek out visitors and to get acquainted with them, not just say &quot;hello, glad you came.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like you, my husband usually will greet people when visiting just as if he were at home, but several times I have asked him to remain quiet and see how we are treated.  Sometimes we have been warmly welcomed, but too many times we have been ignored and allowed to come and go with no interaction at all.  This has made us even more eager to seek out visitors and to get acquainted with them, not just say &#8220;hello, glad you came.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 15:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is amazing how the level of friendliness will affect us.  A lot of times we love or dislike a congregation on this basis.  It is important stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is amazing how the level of friendliness will affect us.  A lot of times we love or dislike a congregation on this basis.  It is important stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Dcmba</title>
		<link>http://www.matthewmorine.com/church-news/friendliness-and-congregational-growth/558/comment-page-1/#comment-3883</link>
		<dc:creator>Dcmba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 02:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is one of the primary reasons we are at our current church.  I have never in my life felt so welcomed from the moment I walked in.  At first, it seemed like they had just had a sermon on greeting visitors, but after visiting a few times, I saw this was just the culture they had developed.

My parents once left a church when I was a kid because they got there 30 minutes early and stayed 20 minutes after and nobody even came over to say hello.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is one of the primary reasons we are at our current church.  I have never in my life felt so welcomed from the moment I walked in.  At first, it seemed like they had just had a sermon on greeting visitors, but after visiting a few times, I saw this was just the culture they had developed.</p>
<p>My parents once left a church when I was a kid because they got there 30 minutes early and stayed 20 minutes after and nobody even came over to say hello.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Laudett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry Laudett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 01:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matthew,
Your post reminded me of a time when my wife and I visited a church in another state.  We looked in a phone book and found an ad for a church with the slogan &quot;Where no one stands alone.&quot;  Well...we stood alone for about an hour and a half.  The church had a lofty goal, but it did not come close to reaching it on that Sunday morning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matthew,<br />
Your post reminded me of a time when my wife and I visited a church in another state.  We looked in a phone book and found an ad for a church with the slogan &#8220;Where no one stands alone.&#8221;  Well&#8230;we stood alone for about an hour and a half.  The church had a lofty goal, but it did not come close to reaching it on that Sunday morning.</p>
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		<title>By: Rex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 00:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alan is exactly right!  

Brent does bring up something important to remember.  In the postmodern/post-Christian culture we live in, any friendship or love that is not authentically genuine will be sniffed out and rejected.  People want to know they mean much more than just an evangelism prospect or number for the scorecard (a.k.a., membership role).  

The question is can we love people as God loves people?  That is, just as Jesus loved people, can we love people for who they are no matter what they are and even if they do not reciprocate that love?

What a challenge!

Rex</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan is exactly right!  </p>
<p>Brent does bring up something important to remember.  In the postmodern/post-Christian culture we live in, any friendship or love that is not authentically genuine will be sniffed out and rejected.  People want to know they mean much more than just an evangelism prospect or number for the scorecard (a.k.a., membership role).  </p>
<p>The question is can we love people as God loves people?  That is, just as Jesus loved people, can we love people for who they are no matter what they are and even if they do not reciprocate that love?</p>
<p>What a challenge!</p>
<p>Rex</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 22:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One is certainly aware that the car salesman is desiring to sell a car to you.  This is a known, there is a certain level of self-serving friendliness, but since I was going to buy a car anyway, I might as well buy one from a salesman who was nice instead of rude or unhelpful.  Also, hopefully most congregations are deeper and more sincere than faking niceness for membership.  But if I wanted to be part of a congregation, at first I want a little niceness, maybe after a while, the couple could inform me that this was their preferred pew but probably the first visit is not the time to do this.  I am thankful that you prefer people to not sugarcoat stuff, but most people the direct route is considered a rude route.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One is certainly aware that the car salesman is desiring to sell a car to you.  This is a known, there is a certain level of self-serving friendliness, but since I was going to buy a car anyway, I might as well buy one from a salesman who was nice instead of rude or unhelpful.  Also, hopefully most congregations are deeper and more sincere than faking niceness for membership.  But if I wanted to be part of a congregation, at first I want a little niceness, maybe after a while, the couple could inform me that this was their preferred pew but probably the first visit is not the time to do this.  I am thankful that you prefer people to not sugarcoat stuff, but most people the direct route is considered a rude route.</p>
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		<title>By: Brent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 21:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;His purpose was to answer questions, direct me to the cars that I would be interested in, and to make me feel comfortable.&quot;

I just wanted to add that his purpose was to sell you a car. Everything you have listed there is just a prerequisite to that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;His purpose was to answer questions, direct me to the cars that I would be interested in, and to make me feel comfortable.&#8221;</p>
<p>I just wanted to add that his purpose was to sell you a car. Everything you have listed there is just a prerequisite to that.</p>
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		<title>By: Brent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 21:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He wanted to be nice to you because if you bought the car he got a nice commission. It&#039;s funny that you would want to go somewhere and have someone be &quot;Fake Nice&quot; to you. The carmax guys was only nice because if he was nice he would get something out of it. Same as I was only Nice to people so they would buy Cable, Phone and Internet at Eastlink and we would make our sales goals and I would get my bonus. Would you rather have gone to that Church and had the people behind you be nice to you and not meant it? I would have had them be mad that I was sitting in there seat. At least that was real and not a fake smile and hating you inside for sitting in their seat. Just think next time if you didn&#039;t know they were upset you were in their seat again, you would have sat in it again. Next time you go there you will know that is their seat and they will be happy that you had the respect not to sit in it again. I am sure that will make them much more happy and nice to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He wanted to be nice to you because if you bought the car he got a nice commission. It&#8217;s funny that you would want to go somewhere and have someone be &#8220;Fake Nice&#8221; to you. The carmax guys was only nice because if he was nice he would get something out of it. Same as I was only Nice to people so they would buy Cable, Phone and Internet at Eastlink and we would make our sales goals and I would get my bonus. Would you rather have gone to that Church and had the people behind you be nice to you and not meant it? I would have had them be mad that I was sitting in there seat. At least that was real and not a fake smile and hating you inside for sitting in their seat. Just think next time if you didn&#8217;t know they were upset you were in their seat again, you would have sat in it again. Next time you go there you will know that is their seat and they will be happy that you had the respect not to sit in it again. I am sure that will make them much more happy and nice to you.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan Bell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan Bell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 21:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My first thought after reading this is: they&#039;ll know we are Christians by our LOVE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My first thought after reading this is: they&#8217;ll know we are Christians by our LOVE.</p>
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		<title>By: Rex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 20:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I could not agree with your post more.  Friendliness of any congregation will imact the seekers desire to be a part of that church.  Mcuh of the more recent literature on church growth in a postmodern culture suggests that people will be won to the community before they are won to Christ.  In other words, the path to discipleship for a seeker will first take need to offer a community that the seeker enjoys and feels welcomed to be a part of.  This cannot happen un an unfriendly and uninviting congregation (even if that is unintentional).

I am a big advocate of small groups as the entry point into the Christian community.  Invite the seeker to a small group where there is 6-12 other Christians gathering for prayer, fellowship, Bible study, etc... and develop a relationship (friendship) with that seeker to the point that he/she wants to be a part of that small group (which then breeds the opportunity to teach him/her about Jesus).  Then when that person is invited to the larger Sunday morning worship/assembly, they will already have some familiar faces they know.  

The larger the average Sunday assembly, the more needed this is.  However, for most Churches of Christ, the entry point into the church (the seekers first meeting with a particular local Christian community) is the Sunday morning worship assembly.  Developing small groups and making the change so that a seeker&#039;s first introduction to that particular congregation is one of several small groups is no easy task.  In some congregations, trying to make that change is almost impossible and would be so disruptive (unfortunately) that it just may not be worth the effort.  It seems that the difficulty with making such monumental changes in the way a church &#039;works&#039; increases as the total size of the congregation increases.  If a church cannot make such a change, it DOES NOT mean that members cannot learn to be more friendly, welcoming, and seeker-sensitive to visitors during the Sunday morning assembly.

Rex</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could not agree with your post more.  Friendliness of any congregation will imact the seekers desire to be a part of that church.  Mcuh of the more recent literature on church growth in a postmodern culture suggests that people will be won to the community before they are won to Christ.  In other words, the path to discipleship for a seeker will first take need to offer a community that the seeker enjoys and feels welcomed to be a part of.  This cannot happen un an unfriendly and uninviting congregation (even if that is unintentional).</p>
<p>I am a big advocate of small groups as the entry point into the Christian community.  Invite the seeker to a small group where there is 6-12 other Christians gathering for prayer, fellowship, Bible study, etc&#8230; and develop a relationship (friendship) with that seeker to the point that he/she wants to be a part of that small group (which then breeds the opportunity to teach him/her about Jesus).  Then when that person is invited to the larger Sunday morning worship/assembly, they will already have some familiar faces they know.  </p>
<p>The larger the average Sunday assembly, the more needed this is.  However, for most Churches of Christ, the entry point into the church (the seekers first meeting with a particular local Christian community) is the Sunday morning worship assembly.  Developing small groups and making the change so that a seeker&#8217;s first introduction to that particular congregation is one of several small groups is no easy task.  In some congregations, trying to make that change is almost impossible and would be so disruptive (unfortunately) that it just may not be worth the effort.  It seems that the difficulty with making such monumental changes in the way a church &#8216;works&#8217; increases as the total size of the congregation increases.  If a church cannot make such a change, it DOES NOT mean that members cannot learn to be more friendly, welcoming, and seeker-sensitive to visitors during the Sunday morning assembly.</p>
<p>Rex</p>
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